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1993 Celica GT Convertible – Sputtering/Low Idle Issue

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#1 · (Edited)
Aside from the fuel sending unit, I’m now dealing with another issue. On my way to work, the car began sputtering, the accelerator pedal and brake pedal felt soft, and the check engine light came on. The CEL goes away if I let off the gas. I also noticed a strong exhaust fume smell, and the idle drops to around 500 RPM.
I already checked for vacuum leaks but didn’t find anything obvious — not sure if I need to recheck all the lines. Has anyone run into this before or know what else I should inspect? Since it did it again when on my way home. Could it be because it rained really hard the night before and got water? If it does it again tomorrow i’ll take a video, I couldn’t take one today since i was on the busy interstate.
 
#6 ·
Code 31 involves the vacuum system circuit (not volume).

Just remember, the codes tell you what circuits are problematic, not what sensors. It could be the sensors. It could also be wiring that is difective. It could also be an ECU failure. If I understand correctly, you haven't had any problems until that day you were on your way to work. If this is true, it is highly unlikely 3 sensors all failed at exactly the same time. It is possible a rodent chewed the wiring to cause all this. It is also possible the ECU went bad internally to have these 3 circuits affected at the same time. I wouldn't be chasing after replacement sensors right now.

Are you skilled and capable of doing electrical diagnostics?
 
#7 ·
i am not able to perform electrical since i’m not certified and don’t know how to. I was going to put my vehicle in service at the toyota dealership that i work at but one tech knows their way around the celica. Just the downside he’s always busy with warranty work and big jobs
 
#8 ·
On your own personal vehicle, you don't need a certification. But you would need to be certified to fix other people's vehicles at a service shop. I'm not sure how to help you if you can't do basic diagnosis. I can send you the diagnostic pages for two of those 3 codes you have. If this were my car, I would remove the ECU and open it up to see if the circuit board is pristine or if it has evidence of something that burned up on the board or if it has leaking capacitors. ECU failures were fairly common on these early 1990's Toyota's.
 
#12 ·
Jumping in late....
You mentioned that the CEL goes off when you let off the gas. A CEL code typically won't reset until a number of drive cycles or types of a drive cycle are finished.

If the car is dropping rpms, the ECU will either
A) start receivingv weird signals from the sensors
B) think it's in a starting mode, and do a dashboard light test.

The heavy exhaust smell suggests there is too much fuel it there is unburnt fuel. Either of these could cause the engine to not perform well and could lead to low rpms.
 
#13 ·
So after testing the sensors the tps was faulty, and the map sensor was going out due to some faulty wires. Ended up replacing the tps and cleaned the map sensor and had a friend help me replace some wires(thank god he knows what he’s doing). I did get a new map sensor luckily by a friend for cheap. Had the ecu cycle a bit yesterday and today and will say i have seen improvements and haven’t had the rpms drop like crazy or have the engine sputter like how it was recently.


I’m not certain if this fixed it, and will do more testing and driving to be positive this solved it.