Turbo? Options

[Addicted II Ink]

well guys i got my first celica 7 months ago and i must say i love the way it drives. i got a 91 celica gt with a 2.2l 5spd for 600 bucks. so far i have added a kick azz stereo system, 15 inch porshe rims and racing tires, and a few small mods to the interior.

i won't to add a turbo to it but the only one a found so far is 2200.00 and doesn't come complete. so can anyone think of any sites where i could find one?

[90_inprogress]

$600 with Porsche rims? Nice.

Aftermarket turbo kits kinda scare me. My brother in-law installed one in his Eclipse and blew out his engine head THAT DAY. If I was you (and I wish I was, with a GT 2.2 with Porsche rims, damn!) I'd install a cat back exhaust, a short ram air intake or a cold air intake, with some premium wires & plugs. You'd be surprised with the results.

[WickWackDJ15]

Lets see some pics of that puppy with those rims.

[renfield]

That sucks dude about your brother-in-laws Eclipse, but you gotta know by know that Eclipse's are notorious for either blowing a engine or a tranny. For some reason Mitsubishi never made the eclipse a strong lasting car.

But about the turbo dude, you don't have to go and get a greddy turbo. Just find the small ALL-Trac one, or find a small Mitsubishi turbo and buy a nice intercooler, a pop off valve, and you can make all the tubing yourself. Buy some silicon hoses, get the ALL-Trac headers, and a boost gauge. You're set....but remember more boost makes it just more propable for you to blow a head gasket, hit a valve, or maybe throw a rod.

[ajm563]

The other issue about the turbo is the ECU. You're going to need to get the car tuned if you install a turbo. I don't know that much about kits, But I think some may come with a preflash that at least makes the car drivable.
For 2200, it may be more economical to do an engine swap. If you're willing to do work yourself, the 3SGTE itself can be found for less than that turbo kit you were looking at.

[renfield]

Yeah I totally jumped over the fact of the ECU and injectors. It would be cheaper or the same amount if you did a 3SGTE swap and paid someone to make the motor and tranny mounts. I've found the 3SGTE motor on Ebay with 50K miles on it with turbo and intercooler and tubing, around 1K. And you could go or call junkyards and find a used tranny and ECU

[Addicted II Ink]

WHY DROP O A 2.0 3SFE? 2.2 LITER RT MOTORS ARE HARD AS HELL TO FIND AND THEY ARE SAID TO BE THE BEST MOTOR EVER MADE FOR A CELICA. BESIDES I AM NOT GONNA PUT THE TURBO ON A STOCK 2.2L
I HAVE A SPARE 2200 RT THAT I AM REBIULDING. WHEN I AM DONE MY NEW MOTOR I AM GONNA DO A SWAP AND ADD NEW FUEL RAIL AND INJECTORS, NEW CAM GEARS, STAGE 4 CLUTCH AND A FEW OTHER THINGS.

BTW A 3SFE WILL BOLT UP FIN YOU JUST HAVE TO MOVE THE KNOCK SENSOR

[jhull]

there refering to a 3sgte not a 3sfe.
3sgte is a 2.0 turbo engine. with a much better head, making it outperform a 5sfe even with a turbo. that also will bolt in you wont need mounts or anything made, just a lot of sensors... DO NOT BUY A ENGINE FROM EBAY FOR A SWAP!!! you will spend another 1k for everythng else needed, buy a clip, in the end its cheaper
the 5sfe is probrolly one of the best "reliable engines" but thats because they are built as a economy engine, once you start boosting ect it takes that away, as it would with any engine. 3sgte is turbo built for turbo, stock jdm 2nd gen engine is pushing about 225hp, and the engine has proven to be able to exceed 300hp with minor modifications. theres many of them out there pushing in excess of 500whp. and best part unlike the 5sfe the 3sgte has plenty of parts availble to get you there.

[Addicted II Ink]

I already have a spare 2.2l motor and i am workin on rebiulding it as we speak. i am havin the engine bored 30 over, ported polished and decked. i am havin the put in ceramic coated forged pistol, molly rings, new crank, racing cams, and loyton lifters. don't know if i am gonna do a turbo i am just thinkin about it.

[ajm563]

If you are doing that much work yourself it may be worth considering finding a G head for the 2.2l. You can keep the higher displacement, but with a little fabrication, also get the benefits of the wider valve angle of the G head that makes the 3SGE outperform the 5SFE. This wouldn't exactly be an "easy" operation, but since you seem to be doing a lot of work on the engine anyway, it's worth consideration.

[renfield]

You said you were having it put in, does that mean you are paying someone else to do all that work? or were just talking theoritacally?

[Addicted II Ink]

i sent out the block and the head, but as far as puttin it back together i am doin that myself

[VTECKiller]

What are the specs of the cams your putting in and where are you getting them from? I dont see why you would want all that work into a motor, espically if you think that running it as an NA monster is any better of a choice than a turbo. What compression are you looking at running and what are your hp goals?

If your going to put all that work in, i would go ahead and flash the ECU or make a daughterboard, knife-edge the crank, and some ARP bolts.





Then again, what do we know?

[Tommy91GT]

Sad to say the money you will put into a 5sfe to get it to 250 whph, you can swap to a 3sgte and be hitting over 300whp. The 3sgte is a direct swap you just need to change out the wireing harness and ECU. Without a turbo or a shot of nitro you won't hit 300 hp in the 5s. A 5s will hold a turbo and there has been a lot of luck with this on the MR2 boards, some pushing 12 psi on stock internals. But with this you need a standalone. Other items needed to boost a 5s are: turbo, oilpan and exhaust manifold off of 3sgte, 2 bar sensor, larger injectors, FMIC, custom piping, oil and water lines, plus some other items. You can put a kit together complete for around $700-900, but you still aren't going to hit 300.

[Addicted II Ink]

i just thought about adding a turbo to give it alittle more ass. not lookin to break 300 horse. i could care less about havin massive power. i have owned muscle cars and hot rod trucks, they are all fun but i know if i add too much to my car and i don't really wantt to soup it up too much. just a place toy that i can have fun in and it looks good