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#1 (permalink) Old 08-01-2005, 05:48 PM
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People, im so tired of reading new topics every other day about the differences between the ST GT and GT-S celicas and having to explain to each and every person the differences. So here it is. Read this before you ask any more "what is the difference..." questions.

Celica ST : 4AFE, DOHC, 16V. 105 hp, 1.6L. 4 Lug, 4 x 100mm wheels Your slow economy car. Came in the coupe model only with no power anything. Only body difference between this model and the GT coupes are the black door ding guards and mirrors. Overall the slowest celica out of the 5th generation.

Celica GT : 5SFE, DOHC, 16V, 130-135hp 2.2L. 5 lug, 5 x 100mm wheels The baseline sportscar. The GT came in either the coupe or the hatchback models. While both versions have the same engine, the coupe weighs about 100 pounds lighter. GTs usually come with power steering, windows, locks. ABS, Cruse control, alloy wheels, the System 10 sound system was an option (however rare).

Celica GT-S ; 5SFE, DOHC, 16V 130-135hp 2.2L, 5 lug, 5 x 100mm wheels. The "sportiest" if the NA celicas. The GT-S only came in the hatchback model with the flared wider finders in the front and back. Came with all power options of the GT standard, also the System 10 system is more common in these models, however still rare. Basically the GT-S could be summed up as the nonturbo AllTrac model. The gagues are different than the GT, the speedometer goes to 150 mph while the GT's only goes to 120. The GT-S's gagues also came with a battery voltmeter on the left side (where the boost gague for the AllTrac would be) one the left side of the panel where the GT only had the fuel and engine temp gagues.

As for speed, the GT and GT-S models both have the same horsepower, engine, transmission, suspension, gearing, EVERYTHING. The ONLY difference between these two models are the options the car came with and the wideness of the finders. The GT-S does not go to 140 mph, both are speed limited to 115mph. Both have the same hp rating, the same gearing, so both should run nearly the same 1/4 mile times. (by nearly i mean within .05 seconds of eachother)

Also, all the celicas did go through a body change in 92. None of the perforamce changed. The 5SFE in the GT and GT-Ss received a coilless ignition and a supposed 5hp increase, but there is no true gain between the two engines. The only thing that changed in 92 was the front bumper and rear taillights. The bumper went from a single "mouth" front bumper with foglights inside to a more open front with the foglights spearate on the sides of the opening. The rear lights got a different color layout with black or maroon dividers instead of the colors being side by side. Other than that, the years are all the same.

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i believe the gauges go up to 150 on the GTS, not 140.

other than that, good job!
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thanks for pointing that out

i was wondering if we could sticky this...

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This should be a sticky for sure...
Not all the Celicas were governed however, The Canadian version will do 140 or so, but it takes alot of road.


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This should be a sticky for sure...
Not all the Celicas were governed however, The Canadian version will do 140 or so, but it takes alot of road.
Yes, the Canadian versions are usually different, due to different laws. I know my 90 GT-S does NOT have its governer removed, and I've gotten it up to 205 km/h (roughly 128mph) before I saw a white crown vic and got scared... turned out to be an old man, haha. But it was still climbing, so no doubt it could have reached somewhere around 140mph

Also, besides the governed speed, there is other slight differences:
(Quote from my Haynes Celica 86-93 FWD Repair manual)

Idle speed:
1990 5S-FE
US model 700-750rpm
Canadian Manual 800-850rpm
Canadian Auto 750-800rpm

I think this is because either its colder up here, or because of emissions laws.
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i'm not sure but didn't st's come in liftback too, just really rare.
correct me if I'm wrong

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nice post vtec, definitely sticky material. it might cut out alot of repeat ???'s (not that most newbs read stickys anyway)

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I believe it is also only the 1990 and 1991 ST models that have the four lug nut wheel pattern.

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gts has bigger stock wheels doesnt it?

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I think the GT-S and All-Trac have 15(x6.5?)in rims with 215 / 50 R15 size tires
which would be bigger than ST's and GT's.

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