Generation HP.

[Adelay04]

First post on this forum and I have a question that's been bugging me for a while.

I drive a 2000 Celica GT. I love it, however I don't love being passed by every other "sport car" on the road. The GT model only has an output of 140HP and the GTS has roughly 180HP.

My question to this is... Why did they decrease the HP from the generations before hand? I've decided I'm going to purchase a GT-4 Motor/ transmission and have it installed in my 2000 Chassis. Research has shown me it should fit nearly perfectly as the chassis are very similar.

The reason behind my decision is I've read the GT-4 has an incredible output of 245-255HP. The seventh Generation Model is beautiful, why not give her a heart to match?

Thanks in advance for your imput.

Well i think the reason on this is cost cutting and gt4 are really rare models.

[celestialgranturismo]

Really there is no decrease in horsepower for US spec models, if anything, an increase:

5th gen GT = 130
5th gen GTS = 135
6th gen GT = 135
7th gen GT = 140
7th gen GTS = 180

only the All-Trac,

5th gen GT4 = 200

which for all intents was a homologation model, had more power, but with the added weight and complexity of an AWD system, which makes the 7th gen faster off the line and to top speed.
In fact, the GT4 concept was continued in the 6th gen Celica GT4 and the Caldina GT4, which had 240hp and 255hp, respectively - but neither was available here.

So your stock GT-S, if equipped with a 6-speed manual transmission, is the "fastest" US-spec Celica. Of course

To conclude, if you did your research, you would find it IS NOT a simple nor easy swap. Even a large tuning company had to invest considerable time and money ($50,000+) to pull it off. But pull it off they DID, and WELL!! I present you, the Fensport (7th Gen) Toyota Celica GT-4X
http://www.fensport.co.uk/FensportCa...ica_GT4_X.aspx

[seitzy]

Are you kidding me? The Celica GT-S was the pinnacle of the Celica model. It summed up the 30 year run of the car (with the exception of it's front wheel drive.

What a Celica is:
4 Cylinder
Naturally Aspirated
2 Wheel Drive
2 Door
Compact fastback

it's always been that way with the exception of a few Homologation and special models like the Celica Supra and GTFour.

if you look at all the models over the years, they progressively got
A. More powerful
B. Less weight
C. Higher revving engines.

all of those 3 came to a T with the 7th gen, you have an insanely light, 2WD, N/A, high-revving compact fastback.

what's not to love?

[Snowfork]

Originally Posted by Adelay04

First post on this forum and I have a question that's been bugging me for a while.

I drive a 2000 Celica GT. I love it, however I don't love being passed by every other "sport car" on the road. The GT model only has an output of 140HP and the GTS has roughly 180HP.

My question to this is... Why did they decrease the HP from the generations before hand? I've decided I'm going to purchase a GT-4 Motor/ transmission and have it installed in my 2000 Chassis. Research has shown me it should fit nearly perfectly as the chassis are very similar.

The reason behind my decision is I've read the GT-4 has an incredible output of 245-255HP. The seventh Generation Model is beautiful, why not give her a heart to match?

Thanks in advance for your imput.

If I recall correctly, the GT4 was a public release of a TRD road rally car and it was turbocharged. There is your power and tune difference.

[Snowfork]

Originally Posted by seitzy

Are you kidding me? The Celica GT-S was the pinnacle of the Celica model. It summed up the 30 year run of the car (with the exception of it's front wheel drive.

What a Celica is:
4 Cylinder
Naturally Aspirated
2 Wheel Drive
2 Door
Compact fastback

it's always been that way with the exception of a few Homologation and special models like the Celica Supra and GTFour.

if you look at all the models over the years, they progressively got
A. More powerful
B. Less weight
C. Higher revving engines.

all of those 3 came to a T with the 7th gen, you have an insanely light, 2WD, N/A, high-revving compact fastback.

what's not to love?

They got progressively high revving until about 90 when the 4age wasn't being used in the corolla then the standard use of a 11k rpm engine ended. If I recall, the zz family never exceeded the 4age in terms of rpm power band.

[mrlieu]

cutting costs, a GT-4 or All Trac if you're in the US is expensive to produce. Double wishbone suspension, full time 4 wheel drive, meaning 4 CV axles, and two diffientials to control of of that. Which is a reason why Toyota decided to switch to FWD starting with the 1986 model year (4th gen) and MacPherson struts on the front and rear multi link in the rear. Also the 3SGTE engine was expensive to produce because it was turbo charged with a top mount intercooler, Toyota can save more money by goign with NA powered Celica's.

[mexes]

The car may have less BHP but it loves the revs. The Celica comes alive when your revving high... Don't let that put you off

[Snowfork]

Originally Posted by mexes

The car may have less BHP but it loves the revs. The Celica comes alive when your revving high... Don't let that put you off

You bumped an 11 months old thread.

[PiroGT]

Originally Posted by Snowfork

You bumped an 11 months old thread.

^ And that A-OK amgio